16.03.2008

VanceS contributed 103 messages, 8 emotes during 125 minutes. 2008.03.16 05:22:39 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. VanceS schlepps in VanceS marvels at the silence ThomasLev: hello! VanceS: He Thomas ThomasLev: I was here...but got used to the silence & got distracted VanceS: going to NYC later this month? ThomasLev: I was absolutely alone...for a while ThomasLev: yes- Apr. 3 flying in & presenting both ThomasLev: getting a little nervous about it too ThomasLev: do the webheads have a gathering place for TH or FR? RitaZ joined the room. ThomasLev: Hi Rita! RitaZ: Hi all, g'day! NinaTL: just a sec I am learning Japanese ThomasLev: Rita is learning Australian ThomasLev: ...:-) ThomasLev: How's life, Rita? JeffC joined the room. RitaZ: good, Tom, thanks..., and yours? RitaZ: any news? ThomasLev: ok here...Hi Jeff! RitaZ: hi, Jeff! ThomasLev: none really...getting ready for NYC RitaZ: great, Tom! it'll be a pleasure meeting you there! :-) ThomasLev: just wondering where webheads will gather TH or FR JeffC: hi all RitaZ wonders how much multitasking Vance is doing at the moment.... RitaZ: yeah, Tom, we are too many to reach a concensus, it seems ;-) ThomasLev: it's hard enough to pick a restaurant in a small town with a small family... RitaZ: true, Tom RitaZ: so any suggestions? ThomasLev: & people who care passionately about food... RitaZ: ;-) ThomasLev: not offhand... ThomasLev: brb ThomasLev: had to let a restless dog out JeffC: what are you guys trying to reach consensus on? ThomasLev: place to meet in New York City, midtown VanceS: hi RitaZ: a restaurant for 20! ThomasLev: has to be huge VanceS: my apologies JeffC: what city? VanceS: someone in myoffice RitaZ: np, Vance, always welcome :-) RitaZ: NYC next April 2 JeffC: well... they have a few restaraunts there. ThomasLev: I arrive Apr 3 JeffC: here's what i recommend... scout out 5 restaraunts or so, then create a survey online, and vote on it. VanceS: new york restaurants, in that area NinaTL: Okay I am back. Not finished with my Japanese yet but I am here VanceS: always a problem ThomasLev: we have a blog we could put the survey on NinaTL: Hi vance and Jeff! RitaZ: yes, Jeff, but I guess we sould "democratically" come to a sudden decision and put it up..., or else we´ll never come to an agreement!!! NinaTL hugs Rita and the boys VanceS: ohio Nina, gozaimasu? RitaZ: Nina? we should be deciding on a reataurant, I think, as we won't be getting room for 20 without booking, I guess JeffC: right... and/or post the survey link on the yahoogroups list. ThomasLev: hugs returned NinaTL: Hajimemashite Vance san RitaZ: wow, Nina!!!!! NinaTL: Maybe that's like saying "Nice to meet you" to vance instead of "Nice to see you" NinaTL: I don't know VanceS: zenbu de nihongo wasurimasita ThomasLev: a-so NinaTL: I am playing with a thread on Chinswing called "Let's Speak Out Simple Japanese Words and Phrases" NinaTL: You are way beyond me, vance! RitaZ: gosh..., one feels illiterate with these people around :-( VanceS: I just said I forgot all my japanese NinaTL: A very lovely Japanese woman started it NinaTL: She says a phrase or two and writes it out in romaji, then encourages contributors to try it NinaTL: There are about 3-4 of us "students" so far but I have been too busy to follow it lately VanceS: what's the url? NinaTL: Now I have a week off for spring break NinaTL: http://www.chinswing.com/pages/discussion.aspx?id=261fc476-d89e-4453-9162-557201308d17 NinaTL: Going to join in in your spare time, vance? RitaZ: is it a free course, Nina? VanceS: spare time, yuk yuk NinaTL: That's what I thought NinaTL: It's just a chinswing thread, Rita, no fee, just fun, not actually a course NinaTL: in the Language Channel NinaTL: I was experimenting one day prior to starting a thread for my beginners and I posted to it NinaTL: then I got an immediate response from Shinobu ("Perspective") NinaTL: I was her first contributor! RitaZ: thanks , Nina, a 3rd life needed for that ;-) NinaTL: Anyway, you were talking about restaurants ThomasLev: yes- any ideas? NinaTL: I have no ideas at all RitaZ: yes, Nina, we need to do sth! NinaTL: I want somebody else to do something and tell me where to go and what time to go there NinaTL: I still have to figure out my transportation VanceS: last conference I remember a microbrew down the street NinaTL: I've got a place to stay Saturday night in harlem NinaTL: same hotel, Vance? VanceS: that's brew and food NinaTL: I don't drink but I assume that isn't necessary VanceS: it was near the conference, not sure it's same hotel NinaTL: I think Rita is right about needing a reservation for a crowd though NinaTL: What about asking Laine for a suggestion? JeffC: here's a possible starting point for you... these restaurants all have 5 star consumer ratings... and yeah... you definitely want to reserve in advance: JeffC: http://newyork.metromix.com/facets/restaurants/ratings.user_rating.5 RitaZ: Nina, I have come across a couple of restaurants around Times Sq, is that too far, do you think? NinaTL: It's at 42nd Street so about 14 blocks NinaTL: There must be buses that run on the Avenues RitaZ: it would be great to decide here and NOW, then I come make a booking, if you want NinaTL: Thanks Jeff, will check later RitaZ: so whats the best area, Nina, near out Convention place, Nina? you know best NinaTL: I am thinking we might make a decision now and then find something so much better when we get there VanceS: we should ask a new yorker like laine RitaZ: but we are TOO many to contact each other the last minute! NinaTL: I don't know, Rita, I haven't spent any time in New York for 40 years! ThomasLev: my sister says, midtown is crowded & expensive, all the locals go to the Village & Chinatown ThomasLev: including her NinaTL: Yes, that is the problem. NinaTL: I would have thought the Village too expensive ThomasLev: but, if you are midtown, you go west by the river, that's where all the restaurants are ThomasLev: it's about a five-block walk NinaTL: That sounds near, but 5 blocks going west is actually quite far VanceS: is it? NinaTL: I will ask my cousin (the one who lives in Harlem) what she thinks RitaZ: yeah, Vance, blocks are huge going east/west VanceS: oh VanceS: how far is huge for a block? PattiGH joined the room. RitaZ: hm, might be twice a s ,ong as a noemal block NinaTL: There are about 12 avenues that cross manhattan island N/S NinaTL: as aopposed to a couple hundred streets crossing it E/W NinaTL: so from street to street is very short but from avenue to avenue is a shlep VanceS: oh NinaTL: 5 blocks is almost halfway across the island NinaTL: This map shows midtown and west: http://gonyc.about.com/od/manhattan/l/bl_midtownwest.htm VanceS: what year was teh last conference there? ThomasLev: 1999? NinaTL: The hotels are at 6th Avenue I believe NinaTL: around 6th and 56th VanceS: webheads were only 2 years old NinaTL: Looks to me like 1 long block = 3 short ones ThomasLev: Hi Patti NinaTL: Yes, hi Patti, sorry I didn't acknowledge you before RitaZ: sorry, Patti, hi, too immersed in the search for NYC hotels :-) NinaTL: Patti is in denver so she can't help us RitaZ: she'll help us next year :-) VanceS: she can help us next year PattiGH: Good Morning! I am sorry. I was engrossed in reading discussion threads and thinking about answers. Hope you are all well! No, I have relatives there, but that won't help! VanceS: yeah :-) PattiGH: Yes, next year! NinaTL: We are ESL and EFL teachers, Patti NinaTL: Our annual convention is coming up in a few weeks in NYC RickRo joined the room. NinaTL: In 2009 it will be in Denver PattiGH: Very nice! Is the convention next year in Colorado? NinaTL: Hi Rick RickRo: Hi everyone! PattiGH: I will help then!!! RitaZ: hi, Rick NinaTL: Sabah al kheir RickRo: Hey! Sabah il noor! NinaTL: il, sorry NinaTL: I've never written it RickRo: al is probably right... it's hard to transcribe {:-{>} NinaTL: I am thinking about how I can get hold of a laptop at the convention so I can post to the blog NinaTL: Maybe MEI will lend me theirs but it's old and rather large and heavy RickRo: there are usually computers in the book fair, no? VanceS: long lines NinaTL: I don't want to depend on public computers at all, lines are too long NinaTL: I want to post my impressions and photos of the day every night NinaTL: Last year I was fortunate because my roommate Kathy let me use hers RitaZ: thats why we need to know where to meet in advance, Nina, restaurantwise NinaTL: but I would prefer not to ask and I will be with kathy only Thursday and Friday nights JeffC: Can't you borrow one from your university, Nina? NinaTL: Yes, Rita, exactly RickRo: ARe there WH plans already? NinaTL: I am going to investigate that Jeff RickRo: for meeting up? NinaTL: Maybe borrow, maybe rent RickRo: steal....? NinaTL: We have plans to meet, Rick but not where NinaTL: haha RickRo: nods RickRo: virtual meetings, as usual.... NinaTL: Of course we could just pick a hotel lobby, or the EV, meet there, go out for a walk and choose a restaurant RickRo: hard to find places to eat in NY, though NinaTL: but then we would have the problem of finding one large enough to accommodate a big group NinaTL: at one table RitaZ: well, Nina, let's put up some more restaurants name in our wiki this week, and we'll come to a decision, Im worried about this! NinaTL: or 2 or 3 adjoining ones RickRo: picnic? RitaZ: yes, as it happened in Seattle NinaTL: Rita, maybe we can make a plan for Wednesday night RitaZ: yes, Nina, great NinaTL: and let otehr people plan for the other nights VanceS: I arrive on Wed 2nd NinaTL: I think there should be a webhead option every night! NinaTL: Yes, vance, we do too RitaZ: but I believe we should "democratically" decide RickRo: meaning no one ever decides.... NinaTL: I think democratic is difficult RitaZ: thats why ;-) VanceS: you mean like one person decides? RickRo: Vance is our leader; we obey all! RitaZ: two..., or three, Vance? RickRo: he mandates.... RitaZ bows to King Vance VanceS: I have a week off before teh conference NinaTL: It's unwieldy otherwise, and there are too many venues for decision making, the wiki, the blog, here... RickRo: luck dog VanceS: of course, Nina organized Seattle quite well NinaTL: I did nothing about restaurants NinaTL: just went where I was told RickRo: tell us where to go when to go and what to eat, Vance! RitaZ: I did that..., bec I arrived earlier VanceS: as defacto point person I'll see that something is organzed throguht the blog or wiki NinaTL: I am the one with all the dietary wierdnesses so it's better that I not be the one to choose for all VanceS: we'll need a wiki, do we have one? RitaZ: sure we do, Vance!! NinaTL: Sincerest thanks to vance for taking on yet another job! NinaTL: http://wia-in-nyc.pbwiki.com NinaTL: the pw is webheads AmandaRos joined the room. AmandaRos left the room. VanceS: 'll be around Wed, Thu, Fri VanceS: and Sat most of the day NinaTL: Same as me, Vance RitaZ: I'll try to put up more names of restaurants along 6th Av, if possible VanceS: we definitely need a local in on this VanceS: we can raise someone on the list NinaTL: That's why I think maybe Laine RitaZ: can you contact Laine, Nina? NinaTL: The problem with the wiki is having too many choices already NinaTL: I don't think I have her email RitaZ: well, Nina, we can ask and set a deadline for choosing one, then we decide and book NinaTL: My priorities are (1) price (2) convenience (walk or bus or subway) (3) food NinaTL: Does anyone have Laine's email? NinaTL: Oops I do VanceS: atmosphere, friendly and relaxed and we can walk around RitaZ: uh, Vance, too much asking ;-) ThomasLev: I agree with Vance BeyzaY joined the room. RitaZ: I'll do my best through Internet, but can never know until there ThomasLev: in fact, if you're worried about price, you'll end up in Joisey BeyzaY: hi all ThomasLev: hi Beyza! VanceS: Hi beyza RitaZ hugs Beyza BeyzaY: hugs Rita RitaZ: Joisey? NinaTL hugs Beyza BeyzaY: hugs Nina ThomasLev: or Chinatown NinaTL: Don't mock New Jersey, Tom, I grew up in Hackensack! ThomasLev: which is not bad RitaZ: is that a restaurant, Tom? where? ThomasLev: Joisey's ok! ThomasLev: long walk though RitaZ: hmm CarlaA joined the room. VanceS: swim/walk RitaZ: hi, carla NinaTL: Okay I have just sent an email to Laine listing our priorities and asking her to post to the wiki NinaTL hugs Carla NinaTL: Hi Carlinha! CarlaA: hi, everyone! VanceS: hi Carla BeyzaY: hi Carla ThomasLev: hi Carla! NinaTL: I think it's too inconvenient, you have to take a bus over or under the river RitaZ: well, we need to do a search again CarlaA: are u talking about NY? NinaTL: Let's see if laine responds NinaTL: yep RitaZ: yes, Carla, coming? CarlaA: yes, Rita, sure! RitaZ: great! CarlaA: I'm taking advantage of this last year at the US. CarlaA: don't know when I'll be able to attend it when I'm back to Brazil NinaTL: Carla, I can stay at my cousin's in Harlem on Saturday night but if your family leaves early I would rather stay with you if possible NinaTL: My cousin will be out of town anyway NinaTL: She will leave me her key but it won't be any fun NinaTL: Right, I doubt I will make it to Denver in '09 JeffC: how about something like this? http://www.dinnerinthesky.com/ NinaTL: This could be my last TESOL CarlaA: OK. I'll see Nina. I don't know yet my sister's plans to visit me there, but we can manage things. VanceS: why Nina? NinaTL: ohmigod Jeff you've got to be kidding JeffC: hehe NinaTL: not much space for walking around there! NinaTL: But don't worry Carlinha, because I have an alternative RitaZ: we are trying to decide on a restaurant to get together on Wedn 2, Carla CarlaA: for me, too, Nina, some years without TESOL!!! CarlaA: oh, I see, Rita. So any concrete suggestions? NinaTL: I am nearing the end of my career; and I have hardly ever gone to TESOL NinaTL: I've just emailed Laine, Carla; we think we need a local's input on this VanceS: end of career? CarlaA: true, Nina RitaZ: well..., neither have I, Nina! just now, to meet the Webheads!!! ;-))) NinaTL: Well vance I could retire in as few as 4 years ThomasLev: TESOL is what makes the whole career worthwhile CarlaA: I want to go to the one in 2010 in Boston!!! ThomasLev: imho NinaTL: I attended both Baltimore conventions NinaTL: Boston is reachable NinaTL: athough not cheap CarlaA: my sister lives there... NinaTL: If I could get funded it would be another story NinaTL: last year I was 100% funded (except meals) RitaZ: Boston is a wonderful city NinaTL: this year 0%, although my PT employer is kicking in $100 VanceS: I really enjoyed the days when we started up the CALL interest section and used to have guitar jams in the EVO after getting that place in shape late each night CarlaA: yes, Rita. ThomasLev: Nina you should just start working for the TESOL org. ThomasLev: they'll fund you NinaTL: But then I would have no summer break, Tom CarlaA: guitar jams???that would be cool, vance... NinaTL: and being in the classroom is what I enjoy ThomasLev: there's lots of ways to get funding RitaZ lokies Tom´s suggestion :-) CarlaA: Ronaldo is a wonderful saxofonist NinaTL: I don't want to work in an office RitaZ: likes NinaTL: Ronaldo plays saxophone? CarlaA: Nina, I love the classroom, but I also love to work in "the office" giving support to other teachers and developing projects for the school CarlaA: yes, Nina, he's very talented and a sweet! NinaTL: I am so looking forward to meeting him CarlaA: You'll see RitaZ: and he'll be at TESOL, good! CarlaA: yes, Rita. There will be many fun people from my school this year. NinaTL: When TESOL was in Baltimore in 2004 (I think 2004) I was on the convention team and got in free VanceS: it's hard to get guitars on planes these days NinaTL: Who else, Carla? ThomasLev: they had a great museum in Baltimore CarlaA: Vance, I brougth my husband's "cavaquinho" on the way back from Brazil. No problem... RitaZ: Michael plays the guitar wonderfully and sings, but dont think he'll take it ThomasLev: wildest place I ever saw VanceS: In Chicago tesol held its social dinner gala at the natural history museum there once ThomasLev: my sister will be there- she's a world class clarinetist CarlaA: Oh, Nina, people you don't know...The general academic coordinator, who's great and young, really interested in tech. She'll be presenting at ev with ronaldo VanceS: saw you tube videos of Tom's sister CarlaA: really, Tom?! DaveKe joined the room. VanceS: Hey Dave, how's things in Guongjiou? CarlaA: Let me ask you something about the network Mall. How will that work for the EVO? I still don't understand it...Should we organize things there? ThomasLev: next time you're in Baltimore http://www.avam.org/ NinaTL: wrong dave? This one is in NJ CarlaA: American visionary art? I like that, Tom VanceS: oh, sorry Dave DaveKe shakes his head NinaTL: Where are you in NJ, dave? I grew up in hackensack DaveKe: I live in Rockaway and work at Morris County School of Technology in Denville NinaTL: I am not familiar with that area NinaTL: also I have lived in Maryland all my adult life DaveKe: NW corner of Morris County ThomasLev: any good places to eat out there? VanceS is still awaiting onset of adult life DaveKe: Sure NinaTL: Is anyone else trying out pbwiki's new beta? I signed up and created a wiki but have been too busy to play with it NinaTL: LOL DaveKe: I thought that I was late for school here NinaTL: We are just a group of happy webheads socializing ThomasLev: you're a little late for school ThomasLev: but that's no problem DaveKe: sorry, the coffee wasn't ready yet DaveKe: OK 'WEBheads", I have a question ThomasLev: fire away DaveKe: I am working on a college project for Distance Learners DaveKe: I have to design an online course for adult learners DaveKe: any ideas wher I can seartch for ideas? DaveKe: I don't actually have to teach it, just design the idea VanceS: what do you want the students to do? DaveKe: colleg level, staff development, etc. DaveKe: My background is Culinary Arts DaveKe: I was thinking something with food or management DaveKe: sanitation, safety DaveKe: getting a job VanceS: hold on, focus ! ThomasLev: I'm getting hungry already DaveKe sits with his hands in his lap ThomasLev: so you assume your students are adults VanceS: you've shared a few broad brush strokes but to design a course it needs to have projected outcomes ThomasLev: can handle large readings DaveKe: must be adult population / college or staff development ThomasLev: take online quizzes, write & send you stuff, etc. DaveKe: yup CarlaA: dave, as Vance mentioned, you need to have clear outcomes. In order to get there, you need to set up a plan for each course with objectives and activities for each of the objectives CarlaA: general course objectives and specific objectives and designed tasks for each ThomasLev: brb PattiGH left the room (signed off). VanceS: or to turn the cart before the horse (and why not in a world of paradigm shift) NergizK joined the room. VanceS: you can become familiar with tools which might in turn suggest outcomes you hadn't considered before VanceS: Hi Nergiz NergizK: Hi everybody NergizK: Hi Vance DaveKe: I have to "design document or proposal that should describe a specific Distance Learning course for a specific adult audience, in a specific educational setting of your choosing. This can be a real course, lesson, or program (i.e., putting something that already exists into Distance Learning format). It can also be one that does not currently exist but you think should be offered. Ideally this proposal could be used for a real life situation." DaveKe: I'm not even sure where to start CarlaA: so start with the audience you want to reach and the objectives of your course. MoiraH joined the room. CarlaA: what do you want your students to achieve? VanceS: first think of something you'd like to teach or see taught that you think might benefit from interaction in an online environment MoiraH: Hi everybody DaveKe: not sure VanceS: Hi Moi NergizK: Hi Nina, Carla, Beyza, Rita, .. RitaZ: hi, Moi VanceS: How about the course you are taking now, Dave? NergizK: Hi Moira RitaZ: hi, Nerhiz VanceS: Nergiz asked an interesting question on the list today NinaTL: Yes, very interesting. DaveKe: I have been working on Web CT and also have a classroom here. I want to utilize the knowlede that I have of either one. NinaTL: I want to know the answer! NinaTL: Hi Moi! DaveKe: What about the course Vince? NinaTL hugs Moira NergizK: Ah, Vance, I haven't even had time to check if there are any ansers MoiraH hugs Nina back VanceS: I haven't had time to answer Nergiz NinaTL: And coincidentally, farther down in the digest vance you described the crash of your geocities site, exactly what she was asking about VanceS: we really should be backing up everything RitaZ needs to read the question yet NinaTL: How do you back up a blog or a wiki? VanceS: the geocities site is backed up and mirrored, just a little hard to find NinaTL: Bergiz wrote, in part: what happens if my files suddenly disappear, my blog my wikis? What if Google or NinaTL: Pbwiki decide to stop there services or loose my data because of some virus? I have the NinaTL: feeling I am loosing control of my data NinaTL: How do you feel about this? Do you have your calendars and notes online? And is it NinaTL: possible to back up my blogs and wikis? VanceS: I think you can import files from blogs, definitely you can get a zip of your wiki NergizK: I know that you can write your blogs offline with some software and upload it but still what about the commens. And he free service don't offer this possiblity anyway NergizK: A zip of a wiki? I should try and find out VanceS: with pb wiki this is sraightforward NinaTL: Do you have to do it each time you edit the wiki (in a major way of course)--and are files also included? NergizK: Good, my wikis are at pbwiki RitaZ: I must be leaving now, folks, have a great week...well, back to the restaurant issue, before leaving, I'll post sth to our wiki this week, ok? Be on the alert, please, we dont have too much time left (I love having everything ready in advance :-)) NinaTL: Hi Nergiz, didn't see you come in! NergizK: Hi Nina. No problem NinaTL: Rita, watch for a post from Laine (I hope) NinaTL: Have a good week NergizK: Bye Rita NinaTL: maybe we can chat if you have time BeyzaY: bye Rtita RitaZ: ok, Nina, we'll keep in contact :-) VanceS: thanks Rita, we'll see you next week here and later in NY NinaTL hugs Rita CarlaA: Ok, rita. Where will you be staying rita? MoiraH: bye Rita :-) BeyzaY: I also need to go RitaZ: yeah, Vance ;-) NinaTL: Rita and I are rooming together BeyzaY: havea great week webheads CarlaA: where, Nina? NergizK: Can't stay too long though... Lunch is almost ready CarlaA: bye, Beyza RitaZ hugs all and leaves NinaTL: Portland Sq hostel on Wed, Hilton NY Thurs/Fri VanceS waves to beyza NergizK: Bye Beyza RitaZ left the room (signed off). NinaTL: Ciao, Beyza! BeyzaY left the room (signed off). NinaTL: gule gule CarlaA: great, nina. NinaTL: darn! missed her CarlaA: i'll be at the sheraton ny NinaTL: We are staying in my colleague's room at the Hilton NinaTL: She's funded and I'm not NinaTL: So we are just paying the rate for extra people in the room VanceS: lucky NinaTL: yes indeed RickRo: I'll be at the Sheraton too DaveKe left the room. NergizK left the room (signed off). NinaTL left the room (signed off). ThomasLev: gtg- bye all ThomasLev left the room (signed off). NergizK joined the room. CarlaA: great, rick. So, we'll meet each other then! VanceS: like a bunch of sky divers whoosh whoosh VanceS: time flies. Right now I'm working on the writingmatrix article for teh WiAOC proceeds NinaTL joined the room. VanceS: my part is very late, must do it like now MoiraH: OK guys, I just quickly came in after the elections here (same thing last Sunday) so next Sunday I'll try to get here earlier VanceS: and next week i might be off somewhere, it's a long weekend NinaTL: Sorry, my computer froze and I had to log out. Too much stuff open I guess VanceS: probably using too many languages NinaTL: I have heard back from my cousin about restaurants VanceS: fast NinaTL: I will post her suggestions on the wiki VanceS: GR8 NinaTL: or here if you prefer NinaTL: and/or MoiraH: that dos sound late Vance ;-) VanceS: here is good RickRo: where's da wikki? NinaTL: http://wia-in-nyc.pbwiki.com NinaTL: pw webheads RickRo: shukran! NinaTL: Afuan NinaTL: There is also a blog (same address at blogspot) NinaTL: Are you already an author there? JeffDL joined the room. MoiraH: So bye to you all - have a great week NinaTL: You too, Moi, see you very soon! NinaTL hugs Moira JeffDL left the room. CarlaA: see you soon, Moira MoiraH left the room (signed off). VanceS waves futilely NergizK: Bye Moira NinaTL: Vance, thanks again for holding my hand for the article VanceS: you gotta be fast on the draw here NinaTL: I am very excited that I will be published in tesl-ej! VanceS: you're article is good Nina NinaTL blushes VanceS: well written NergizK: Really, Nina? VanceS: it will be in On the Internet column NergizK: Where can we read it? NinaTL: It turned out to be so easy after all my worries about creating webpages and html VanceS: it will be up shortly at http://tesl-ej.org NergizK: Great! NinaTL: It wouldn't have happened without your gentle nudges ViolettGst2 joined the room. NinaTL: Hello, Violett ViolettGst2: hello NinaTL: Well friends, almost 10 am here and I must go do something constructive NinaTL: I will post Charlotte's suggestions on the wiki and then I will start work on evaluating myself for my merit packet, due Mar 25, arrgghh NinaTL: See you next week! NinaTL left the room (signed off). NergizK: See you Nina NergizK . o O ( lunch is ready and I'm hungry ) VanceS: We've spent a short happy time together this evening NergizK: Bye everybody! VanceS: many are looking forward to meeting F2F in NYC VanceS: cya Nergiz NergizK: Well, I definitely would... NergizK: Bye Bye NergizK left the room (signed off). VanceS: Hi Violette, welcome DaveKe joined the room. DaveKe: Vance VanceS: Hey Dave VanceS: Is the project you talked about an assignment for a course? DaveKe: Before the flurry of info, you started to tell me something about my school assignment DaveKe: I am looking for the starting point with my assignment of designing an online course DaveKe: as mentioned, I am a Culinary Arts instructor who recently became the Internship Coordinator DaveKe: I have to devlop a proposal fro an online course to be taught to an adult population DaveKe: I w ant to use my knowledeg of food and hospitality management and not reinvent the wheel here VanceS: is your course an online one or a face to face one? DaveKe: ...but I'm not sure here to start with this whole thing ViolettGst2 left the room. DaveKe: It must be designed as an online course VanceS: I mean the course you're taking now? DaveKe: Distance Learning DaveKe: online DaveKe: we get our assignments through WebCT VanceS: so you want to develop a course on something you wish to teach DaveKe: yes VanceS: and something you wish to learn more about by teaching it and interacting with others DaveKe: i guess so VanceS: or by collaborating on a knowledge base VanceS: on developign a KB DaveKe: kb? VanceS: knowledge base DaveKe: y DaveKe: I want it to be meaningful, not just an assignment VanceS: so decide what you want to know more about and develop a course where you and others willb e encouraged to explore the subject DaveKe: i guess the start should be identifying my audience VanceS: possibly VanceS: I would identify the topic first DaveKe: I have taught at the high school level and will take what I know and try to apply it to the adult level DaveKe: I have taught sanitaion certification, maybe I can adapt this for restaurant employees needing to be certified VanceS: possibly DaveKe: why reinvent the wheel, I should just draw on my knowledge now VanceS: most of us do when we teach DaveKe: yeah, I not too smart with chemistry :) JeffC left the room (signed off). DaveKe: oh well, I have until April 11th to put this together. I just don't want to have to rush if I don't need to DaveKe: I'll pick away a little at a time and should be able to get it right DaveKe: Thanks for your insight VanceS: ok, we're here at noon GMT each week VanceS: unitl this time VanceS: (two hours later) that's each Sunday DaveKe: do the webheads just talk technology or what is the normal topic? DaveKe: who buying the next round? VanceS: tonight was pretty typical VanceS: we talk about whatever comes up VanceS: you asked a good question, got us talking ViolettGst2 joined the room. DaveKe: ok, I'll put it down as a favorite site then... thanks DaveKe: gotta go ...thanks again VanceS: ok, hope to see you next week ViolettGst2 left the room. DaveKe left the room. VanceS: Is anyone else non-catatonic here? VanceS waves a hand in front of RickRo VanceS marvels at Carla's mannequin like pose VanceS switches off the lights and leaves quietly VanceS left the room (signed off). 2008.03.16 07:28:00 Signoff